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Sinead: Hey guys, welcome back to the Shawties Podcast with your hosts Sinead and also my host 

Shasha: Shasha 

Shalom: Shalom 

Sinead: my sisters 

Shalom: now yeah yeah guys it’s been a while since we’ve been on here a little bit. It’s been about a month or so 

Sinead: oh has it? 

Shalom: Yes, I think so 

Sinead: No while things have been busy you know right now we just recently launched our family talk show onyx family dinner, which is on the Onyx family YouTube channel. So that was a big project that we were so excited to release

Shasha: and in the first episode just came out today with Emmy award-winning Emmanuel Acho he played for the Philadelphia Eagles back in NFL 

Sinead: and also he just won an Emmy as well. Yeah, 

Shasha: and now he’s making he’s really popular for a series of uncomfortable conversations with a black man about race or something 

Sinead: about a comfortable conversation with a black man about anything really

Shasha: Yeah,

Sinead: That’s what the topic is 

Shasha: so yeah, 

Shalom: yes. So, girls, we’re gonna have an uncomfortable conversation with each other right now. 

Sinead: Yeah,

Shalom: we’re gonna discuss a range of topics.

Shasha: Today we’re talking about makeup. 

Shalom: Are we talking about makeup? 

Sinead: We’re talking about 

Shasha: beauty, 

Shalom and Sinead: not just beauty. 

Shasha: what do you mean not just beauty, What else? 

Shalom: I mean that those are fun topics, but I’m just saying about being comfortable in your own skin. 

Sinead: Yes.

Shalom:  And you know, not needing the maybe like discussing the fact how makeup changes you. 

Shasha: Okay, so when was the first time I just want to ask you guys what was the first time you ever wore makeup? Do you remember?

Sinead: Do I remember? Okay, what counts as makeup? Like 

Shasha: anything? 

Sinead: Anything? Like lip gloss? 

Shasha: Yeah, I remember the first time I was turning eight, and we were going into a spa-like a spa thing. And we got lip gloss on we got medi pedis and it was just like the first time ever was did up and if you look at the photos I think we do have a photo not sure but we do you can see we were feeling ourselves looking extra now. 

Sinead: Oh, yeah. 

Shalom: Yeah, I’m not gonna lie 

Sinead: I don’t know why my first thought even though that this is the first time I remember getting wearing this lip balm. I was about 13/14 wearing this lip balm and it was slightly colored. I mean, when I say slightly covered colored. I mean it was very slightly pink and my mom immediately notice and said go wipe that off. 

Shasha: How old are you?

Sinead:  I was like 13/14 

Shasha: Are you sure?

Sinead: I am positive

Shalom: I remember 

Shasha: Well I just wanna let you guys know, context back then. We were pastor’s Kids 

Sinead: Yeah. 

Shasha: And even we couldn’t really dress heavy.

Shalom:  Well, here’s the thing. We just weren’t allowed in our households you know, we were very conservative. We were

Shasha: We’re pastor’s family. 

Sinead: Yeah, you have just had a certain appearance of how we were looking. 

Shalom: Okay, so my first experiment with makeup I was in grandma’s house right and so I went inside her bathroom and I saw this huge counter full of makeup and so I was like, oh, I’m gonna experiment making sure no one looked so I just grabbed I didn’t notice at the time mascara. I just didn’t even put on my eyelashes I put on my eyebrows because I thought it was gonna give me a little arch you know? 

Sinead: Yeah,

Shalom: some people use it for their arches right?

Sinead: no mascara is not built for the eyebrows it’s just not.

Shalom: You see guys. Like I’m so like I’ve never like I’m 22 right now and I don’t wear makeup like I don’t wear makeup every day well for a few reasons why just because the way I was raised and because of lack of interest and to lack of experiment not that I can get into it I could if I wanted to but I don’t know it’s just not something that I necessarily desire to wear makeup every single day 

Shasha: Yeah,

Shalom: it’s so crazy when I see kids out there they just like every time they go to school they’re like put a full flush of makeup on I’m like whoa, is this like

Sinead:  it’s definitely time-consuming, you have to wake up earlier to do it. You have to spend some time you got to watch tutorials.\

Shasha: I know some people take it as a hobby but it looks like a job to me. 

Sinead: But the thing is the people that see it as a hobby and they’re like genuinely fun to them. I’m like good for you. It’s like an art to them you know?

Shalom: exactly!

Sinead: Like, man that’s great.

Shalom: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. But do 

Shasha: I thought you like to wear makeup?

Sinead: the thing is, I don’t like to wear it daily but I do have fun and I do wear it so if I’m doing a music video I can have a little fun with them some glitter whatever on the eyelids and blending and stuff. I have a little fun with that when I’m doing it for that I just on the daily I’m not that kind of person to wear it on the daily

Shalom: now let me ask you a question. Do you think makeup really just changes you physically?

Sinead: like how you look? Well, I think that the more you wear it, it could probably clog up your pores and stuff like that and probably give you a little more skin issues if you’re not taking care of your skin because like some people they’re really good at taking care of their skin 

Shalom: right 

Sinead: masks and stuff to replenish their face and then be the makeup and all that

Shasha: I just buy wipes from Walmart just wipe them off. I don’t do any kind of skincare.

Sinead: If you will just do that you’re gonna have skin issues because you’re not fully cleaning it and fully rejuvenating your skin afterward. 

Shalom: Yeah, like buying products that will help Like skincare, like invest in yourself in skincare, 

Sinead: yeah if you’re gonna invest in makeup, you gotta invest in the skincare part, or else you might ruin your skin because makeup has a lot of chemicals and it’s just overall it’s like it’s putting a bunch of chemicals on your skin, which absorbs all of it, which goes into your body. So I always considered that whenever I wear makeup, you know?

Shasha: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I remember we were just having a photoshoot. I think last year.

Sinead: not last year. It’s like two years ago. 

Shasha: Yeah, two years ago when we had all lined up in front of. 

Sinead: oh  2 years ago, Now I know we’re talking about it, it was here, right? 

Shasha: Yeah, Well there’s another photoshoot, we all lined up on the table and she was showing us how to put on makeup for the photoshoot because none of us knew exactly how to put it on properly.

Shalom: I still don’t know. 

Shasha: So we all lined up on the table as following this tutorial. And it was just the funniest thing 

Sinead: it was, that was very interesting. Like we really generally don’t know how to apply. Well, I think that now I’ve learned because I had a little practice.

Shalom: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 

Sinead: And then oh, imagine if you guys had to do your makeup for Onyx family dinner. 

Shalom and Shasha: Oh my goodness. 

Shalom: I couldn’t I wouldn’t. I know that the lighting would just like catching my bad side. Just like sometimes I please. Like I literally forget my neck sometimes. And it’s like, 

Shasha: Oh my God. 

Sinead: It’ll be like the makeup kind of stops at the chin. Instead of going down to the neck.

Shalom: And I don’t even go up probably and sometimes I don’t even go all the way on my foreheads. Just like 

Sinead: yeah, so that’s an issue.

Shalom: Exactly. So I actually respect those who actually have they do a really great job with their makeup. So it’s like props to you. But I want to ask you guys how you like is too young for makeup. 

Sinead: How young is too young for makeup? I just feel like not necessary 

Shasha: because you already have good skin as a kid. 

Sinead: Oh no. Not everyone have good skin as a kid but I feel like that when you’re at those ages, it should be more emphasized to take care do skincare more than covering it up with makeup? 

Shasha: That’s a good point. 

Sinead: I think there should be more effort in instead of doing tutorials and learning how to do makeup, maybe tutorials and like okay, find your skin your best skin regimen. Okay, what helps dry skin one, 

Shalom: right.

Sinead: finding those kinds of fixes is better. Now some people don’t even wear makeup to cover up skin issues but they wear it because they think that they don’t look good enough. And then I would say to that emphasize self-love before jumping to make it.

Shalom: It’s interesting. You said skin issues right? Because a lot of people have what do you call it? like that sort of acne disease? like acute. What does it call?

Shasha: acne? I think.

Sinead: I think there’s another word for it.

Shalom: I know 

Sinead: not that acne but 

Shalom: no, no. Yeah, there’s something there’s another word to it. But yeah, they have that type of disease. And also they have like another sort of disease like I can’t remember. But yeah, the acne thing. Like do you think that in terms of acne? Do you think that it’s best when someone you know can cover up or do you think that it’s more like 

Sinead: man, the thing is that you can’t judge? You can’t really judge per se someone who does not feel comfortable because they have really really bad skin issues.

Shasha: Yeah, I’ve never been there before 

Shalom: or burns. Like that’s what I meant to say.

Sinead: oh burns

Shasha: okay, That’s a special situation we’re not talking about.

Sinead: yeah  I’m not gonna tell a burn victim. Oh, don’t wear makeup you need to self-love yourself. 

Shasha: Okay, we’re talking about people who just have skin issues. That’s it like nothing more horrific happened

Sinead: no but even though those people might not feel self-confident no one’s getting but I would say that you still got to learn to love yourself with and without the makeup. You still got to learn to love yourself because it’s going to spread to other things if you’re not loving yourself in certain areas.

Shasha: Oh, that was deep. 

Sinead: Yeah,

Shasha: that was deep. 

Shalom: Oh Cystic acne.

Shasha: Cystic acne. Yeah, I’ve seen that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. 

Shalom: I mean, yeah, there’s definitely there are some special cases where you know, maybe a person would really want to use makeup for certain things, but if you’re like already Okay, right. And your skin is already clear.

Sinead: And people still wear makeup because they want to look older or they want to look more mature or

Shalom: but what makes you mature? Is it the lip gloss that makes you mature? Is it the arches of the eyebrow? Or is it the actual condition and like

Sinead: and that’s the thing because some people can’t be like all makeup is bad or all makeup makes you look more mature because some people will only do a lip gloss like I mostly I wear lip gloss. That’s basically all I do. 

Shasha: I don’t think that counts as makeup. 

Shalom and Sinead: What really?

Sinead: what do some people do?

Shasha: I think lipstick is I think lipstick counts as make up

Sinead: some people wear only eyeliner, they literally only wear eyeliner. And it’s not even a lot of eyeliner but only a little bit of mascara. They only wear mascara but that’s still makeup but it’s like they’re like oh I want to I think that makeup when it pops out a certain feature like you’re like oh I’m targeting certain features. I’m not necessarily changing myself, but I’m emphasizing that’s the thing. There are two things that makeup can do it can emphasize features you already have. So people that wear mascara might be like oh, I want to show off my eyes more and like put make it emphasize what color my eyes or whatever, then some people want to change how they look and they’re literally some people will change like skin tone on their face, 

Shalom: right 

Sinead: face structure because they feel like their nose is too big or their chin is too square or their forehead is too high. Like all that kind of stuff. And when it gets to that point, it’s like you need to practice self-love and more than change how you look

Shalom: right

Sinead: Appreciate it. 

Shasha: Have you guys ever heard of permanent makeup surgery?

Sinead: Permanent make up surgery

Shalom: what is that?

Shasha: basically it can make it look like you have permanent makeup on. So permanent makeup surgery. It’s like tattoos, a needle basically pigments to where you want it to go. It’s like 

Sinead: What?

Shasha: it was it’s actually heard of that before.

Sinead: okay, listen  What if you said hey, I want to permanently look like I have makeup on right now like okay, we’ll call you on your eyeshadow to be and you’re like oh blue, blue today what? It just does not match all your outfits now from then on you will always have blue eyeshadow. 

Shalom: wait, so does that make it look like? Do you have always have like an arch sort of eyebrows?

Shasha: yeah basically anything I think they make their lips pinker you can have 

Sinead: permanent blush. 

Shasha: Yes. Stuff like that. It’s kind of like tattoos. 

Sinead: That’s that’s kind of extreme to me. That’s that kind of No, it is extreme to me. Like I’m just I don’t know. 

Shasha: Okay, but I for me, I would actually nonetheless, I would actually wear makeup more if I did not have to do the work of putting it on if they can create a mask Elon Musk create a mask. I mean, he’s an inventor, if he invented something where you could put it on your face, and then just like, peel it off and make it was on you. 

Sinead: But that’s not permanent, that’s not permanent. So 

Shasha: no, no, no I just want to like if I just want one some, one day.

Sinead: Are you saying that the only thing stopping you from wearing makeup is the fact that you just don’t know how to do it.

Shasha: Yeah

Sinead: so you would wear makeup every day. If you could do it easily. 

Shasha: Yeah, why not? 

Sinead: Sorry. Wait, are you saying that you’re not satisfied with the way you look? Or just for the fun of it? 

Shasha: Just for the fun of it.

Sinead: Okay, okay, that’s what I’m wondering why.

Shalom: Wait Shasha, what if someone said the same thing about the exercise you love to exercise, right? You like the process of it you like 

Shasha: wait, what? No way, wait wait, But exercise is not

Sinead: No, Listen, someone’s like, Man, I can just slap some abs on, slaps some muscles on. 

Shasha: That’s body image issues. 

Sinead: No, actually, your face is body image, It is part of your body image.

Shasha: That’s like comparing drawing to I don’t know. Why are you comparing makeup to exercise? Why?

Shalom: Because some people just want that perfect body so what’s it like?

Shasha: I mean, I acted just for fun. It doesn’t sound fun anymore. 

Sinead: Oh yea, let’s discuss the topic of makeup for fun. 

Shasha: There’s nothing wrong with that. If the issue comes isn’t when you feel dissatisfied. You’re putting on makeup because you’re dissatisfied?

Sinead: Yeah, but the thing is should that be an issue too?

Shalom: What about being dissatisfied with yourself? Like if you want to up yourself 

Sinead: What I’m saying is if they are dissatisfied and they want to do something to better themselves, they feel like makeup is the way it should that be a bad thing? 

Shasha: Yes. 

Shalom: Well, okay. Maybe 

Sinead: Is that like, 

Shasha: Cause you’re encouraging best self-esteem? What’s your argument here? 

Sinead: No, I’m just asking should that be a bad thing? What is someone’s like, you don’t know me? You don’t know that. I feel great when I wear makeup and like or like maybe wigs say someone’s like, oh, I want to wear wigs because they don’t 

Shasha: Oh, yeah. Yeah, like, like, we use extensions. You know, that’s why I kind of like I had a phase where I wore a lot of wigs but I kind of like I kind of want to take a break. 

Sinead: But would you say that it was because you couldn’t take care of your hair or you really did not like your natural hair?

Shasha: I was lazy 

Sinead: or you, okay you were just lazy. 

Shasha: And see that’s why when it comes bad when you would rather wear fake hair than take care of your real hair. You know I’m saying 

Shalom: hmm, 

Sinead: people just want to experiment have fun I guess the best 

Shasha: I’m not gonna argue if you don’t like the hair because I know natural hair there’s a lot

Sinead: I thought that the real thing we’re just saying is you have to appreciate your natural self 

Shasha: right 

Sinead: as well as have fun with makeup or wigs or whatever.

Shalom: right Wow

Shasha: Yeah. I mean you guys got locks cuz I mean you want to I don’t know you just like that style. Not because you hated natural hair right? 

Shalom: No, no, I love my natural hair. I love the way how it grows and everything 

Shasha: kept you guys were frustrated. 

Sinead: No, I didn’t say I hate I was 

Shalom: no I love my natural hair 

Sinead: and I just said that

Shalom: I like my natural hair now I said 

Shasha: no I mean before,

Sinead: before I didn’t hate my hair,

Shalom: for me before I didn’t hate my hair. 

Sinead: I just couldn’t take care of it.

Shalom: Yeah.

Shasha: I don’t want to hear you’re not like did you have the best self-esteem like

Sinead: no no, I still love my hair. I did not like I didn’t hate my hair and I didn’t feel like I look bad with the hair. I had like a full Afro sometimes like 

Shasha: Sinead’s was very thick. 

Sinead: But I did not have the tools to take care of it or I didn’t know where to find the tools to take care of my hair even though the 

Shasha: right 

Sinead: but I didn’t really think about that at the moment. I didn’t have the right mindset to go that far. 

Shalom: Okay, guys, your nine-year-old comes in your bathroom. She’s crying and she’s like Mom, all the kids in my school are oh, we’re wearing makeup. I want to look pretty too 

Sinead: Oh, definitely I would encourage her and say 

Shasha: no. 

Sinead: I would say no foul be like you are first of all you are nine you don’t even look older. Because the thing is about makeup is it definitely makes you look older. that’s what makes 

Shasha: Yeah, basically not young 

Sinead: and when you’re nine that doesn’t need to be thinking about you need to be satisfied with the way you look.

Shasha: Yes, 

Sinead: it’s always gonna be the thing about wearing makeup when you’re young. It’s like you’re not done developing facial features right

Shasha: Yeah, so no stress go play with the barbie. 

Sinead: I looked drastically different than for me at 13 at 10 Even 16 I look different 

Shalom: oh yeah definitely 

Sinead: I don’t know but you always kind of look the same 

Shalom: everyone thinks that you’re younger than you are Shasha 

Shasha: everyone thinks you guys are younger than you are 

Shalom: no no no literally I heard someone gasp once when they heard your age, like 

Shasha: I heard people scream out and horror when they find out you’re like almost you’re 22 and you look like 11.

Sinead: The thing is, is that make a mix of older and we’ve always been mistaken for teenagers 

Shasha: Have that bothered you guys?

Sinead: for being mistaken as young? No, it doesn’t bother me.

Shalom: it doesn’t bother me

Sinead: not people that I literally know some of my own friends who thought I was younger than I am 

Shalom: yeah but it’s also the way how you carry yourself well actually no when you’re doing it yourself we actually carry ourselves older than you are younger 

Shasha: so since skyjack says look the same for years 

Sinead: she looks young 

Shalom: yeah

Shasha: she looks the same so 

Shalom: but she wears makeup though. I think it’s just more of her body because 

Shasha: you asked me like she’s tiny but also her face looks the same

Shalom: yeah her face does look the same

Shasha: in the real literally so I mean 

Shalom: what but like how could that never bothered us like us just being young looking young 

Sinead: Yes for some people it bothers them to look young but really think about it. 

Shasha: Yeah,

Sinead: at some point, you want to look younger like you know when you’re older than you’re like wait a minute, then people start getting Botox and they start getting like 

Shasha: yeah, fillers

Sinead: they start being fillers and stuff or taking like fat off or whatever right because they want to look younger but I would say I would argue to say that stay away from a lot of well, first of all, eat healthily 

Shalom: eat healthily yes 

Sinead: make healthy choices and don’t wear makeup as often as you think you want to 

Shalom: Alicia Keys she stopped wearing makeup for years now. 

Sinead: yeah she’s really good 

Shalom: Yeah, she does it really good 

Shasha: I remember on top of makeup lady gaga when she was filming was it called again in that film her film 

Sinead: Oh,

Shalom: star is born?

Shasha: start is born she was not allowed to wear makeup for the film and when she’s to try to sneak it in a little bit try to sneak in a few makeups but she had to wipe it off because she wasn’t for her role she wasn’t allowed to wear makeup they want her to be natural so I thought that was what is it Makeup

Shalom: but What is it? How come we’re not in this sort of natural phase? How come it’s just never here it’s always just different makeup trends but there’s just never a natural phase 

Shasha: hmm, because there’s no profit from being natural.

Sinead: Oh, I mean think about it. I mean there could be if people invested in skincare makeup companies will suffer but the thing is if they work together you know mess up your skin a little bit with makeup fix it with skincare

Shasha: what 

Sinead: think about it they both profit from that but if you only focus on natural then only the skincare profits come

Shasha: Oh so so so you can start our company Like a makeup company and then a skincare company number like we give them like these toxic makeup ingredients and then he can clean it up with 

Sinead: well you are creating a master plan. 

Shasha: an evil plan, But you’re right I feel like everyone needs to prioritize skincare first and foremost. 

Shalom: I mean and yeah, I mean like I agree wholeheartedly I mean like I feel like I need to invest myself even more of skincare I mean like I don’t use makeup so it’s like I need to you know substitute you know get those serums and those base sprays yeah 

Shasha: base face?

Sinead: rose water mist thing

Shasha: no, 

Sinead: You never use one?

Shalom: you never used one?  

Sinead: it’s relaxing you know

Shasha: What are you talking about?

Sinead: you never use a rosewater spray. 

Shasha: uh-uh. 

Sinead: You should try it

Shalom: it’s really nice 

Sinead: you spray it right on your face and it’s kind of hydrating

Shalom: I will literally buy you one Shasha Because honestly we need to invest me and you, me and you yes 

Shasha: Trust me we haven’t got enough water it’s from a tap. 

Shalom: Oh no, no, there needs to be more than just water. Three soap involved there needs to be 

Shasha: no I can use soap and stuff. I’m just saying this 

Sinead: Rosewater rose water is refreshing 

Shasha: so you can tell who prioritizes skincare more? 

Sinead: Okay, yeah, you know 

Shalom: Wait, wait, wait what tell us you’re like a little bit of it. You

don’t see the whole thing but like what you remember what are you know?

Sinead: Let me just let me reveal my secrets you know so this is what I do. Most days. I wash my face with some water. I don’t do soap every day because it dries out to this all my skin is even different from like say Shalom skin it’s slightly more oily

Shasha: I just soap every day because my skin is oily 

Sinead: so I don’t do soap every day but I will do water for sure. Then of course I do some serum I’d hyaluronic acid. I think that’s what it’s called. Yeah, that’s what it’s called. Right? Sometimes I do niacinamide. And then I put on some Neutrogena face cream after those. 

Shasha: For me. I wash with Cetaphil I love, I’ve been using the same Cetaphil I forgot what the I think it was specifically for phase out the Barwin I don’t know who would use it Barwin but I use that Cetaphil shojo Scrub. Then I put on what’s called again aloe vera oil and olive oil a little bit of mix of the two I don’t put too much because my face is more oily but just to hydrate it a little bit more. I use a mix of those it’s really hydrating

Sinead: Yeah

Shalom: Nice 

Shasha: try the rosewater though

Shalom: nice 

Sinead: alright okay now 

Shasha: slowly keep going 

Shalom: I have some I have a whole bunch of products but I kind of want to list them but I don’t feel like getting it so I will tell you guys another time 

Sinead: another time? Ok like, what do you do? Do you wash your face with soap every day? like

Shalom: oh yeah, every night at least I would wash it 

Sinead: well you should watch it in the morning too because like when

Shalom: and morning It just depends it’s either I vary either night or day by that I wash it. But I use a whole bunch of other products 

Shasha: Do you wash soap twice a day that wouldn’t dry your skin out with soap?

Sinead: not if you have oily skin

Shasha: oh yeah she does oily skin you got to know your type you 

Sinead: got to know you got to do what’s best for your skin. 

Shalom: Wait hold on I’m gonna get one or two of my products

Shasha: no wait Shalom is leaving the building right now. For now, let’s talk about something besides what is your is your we do have a haircare routine I know you have sister locks for like 

Sinead: the thing is about with Sister locks if you don’t really need a hair care routine, you can oil it every you know a couple of weeks but like and then wash it every couple weeks but like the you don’t really have to do much to maintain it like you don’t have to grind. You don’t need to like what you have to do with your hair and put protective styles in it. 

Shasha: And so it just shows me that you don’t need products your hair because look nice hair. Um, I don’t know if

Sinead: you do need to put products in your hair if it’s like that. But because of locks, the only way they will start locking is if you don’t put a bunch of stuff in. If you start putting stuff in, you’ll start slipping 

Shasha: No, but think about it the way to grow your hair because Sinead’s hair was shoulder length when she started but now it’s been mid-waist length. 

Sinead: But think about it like this dreads are almost like a protective style. They’re like braids, but dreads you know, I mean, the way like that it’s not going to like start breaking 

Shasha: Oh, 

Sinead: because it’s basically a constant protective style. 

Shasha: So the secret to growing your hair is protective style so it doesn’t break 

Sinead: Yes, that’s what I would say it is nicely dressed and not necessarily not putting products but keeping your hair and protective styles. 

Shasha: Wow, that’s interesting. I keep my hair and Afro 24/7

Sinead: I think it will it won’t be protected at the ends in stuff because it’s always out but if you have any protective styles.

Shasha: it’s gonna grow nice Sinead’s hair grew so fast. Oh, Shalom is back with her hair skincare products. 

Sinead: Okay, so what do you have Shalom?

Shalom: Okay, so I have hydro bio serum. 

Sinead: So what is it is moisturizing concentrate? 

Shalom: Yes. And I also use hydro bio gel cream as well. 

Sinead: Okay, more stuff. I don’t exactly know what it is. 

Shalom: The makeup artist in LA used it and then Mom ordered it. 

Sinead: Okay, 

Shalom: so yeah, I also use Insta natural 

Sinead: Oh yeah niacinamide serum. It has hyaluronic acid, vitamin E all that is really good for the skin. I highly recommend using niacinamide serum.

Shalom: I need to buy more of mine. This one’s almost out. I also use 

Sinead: Instanatural I love instanatural so I use it

Shalom: Yeah, instanatural Vitamin C cleanser 

Sinead: I use for my skin to wash my face. 

Shalom: And I also use 

Sinead: Mario Badescu as I say, 

Shalom: I think so. 

Sinead: That’s the rosewater 

Shalom: so yeah, Shasha try some on your face 

Sinead: Yes, try it

Shasha: no

Sinead: okay move the microphone

Shasha: wait I might be allergic to it

Sinead: You’re not allergic to it

Shalom: Shasha It’s natural 

Shasha: That smells good. Why do you spray it to my eyes? 

Sinead: What? you suppose to close your eyes

Shasha: You didn’t tell me to?

Sinead: You didn’t even close your eyes? 

Shasha: No.

Shalom: Shasha?

Shasha: I don’t even know when you’re gonna spray it.

Sinead: I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

Shalom: I have to make your face heal.

Shasha: That just smells really good.

Shalom: You want we want me to buy you one. 

Shasha: No, thank you. 

Sinead: It smells good no Thank you. 

Shasha: really good. Oh, yeah, like I’m running across my face. 

Sinead: And that’s that’s what Im saying. It’s, it’s refreshing. Basically what we’re saying is guys take care of who you are naturally because then you’ll learn to appreciate yourself more and you won’t necessarily feel pushed to wear makeup if you don’t really want to but like society pressures, you know? 

Shalom: Yeah, and it’s okay to have fun with makeup. Do you know? Just know just appreciate your natural self first, you know? 

Sinead: Yeah, cuz deep down you got to make sure you appreciate yourself and love yourself deep down. It’s not even really about like, we’re not even trying to criticize anybody for wearing makeup or anything like that.

Shalom: No, 

Sinead: we just want to make sure that everybody has the best mindset first as they’re going in. As you guys are getting into makeup or getting into wearing wigs or getting into wearing even different clothes and stuff like that. 

Shalom and Shasha: Right right.

Shasha: I think the next topic should definitely be hair. 

Sinead: Hair,

Shalom: yeah,

Shasha: I don’t know what do you guys think 

Sinead: that’s a good idea. 

Shalom: That is a good idea 

Sinead: Anyways, guys, we hope we were able to you know, have a nice conversation with you all that was thought-provoking. You know, thinking about what you’re going to change in your life. Maybe do a skin routine if you don’t have one stuff like that, you know, you know, but anyway, thank you guys for joining us in this podcast. We will see you in the next episode.

Everyone: Bye

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Rita: we are half an hour away and our air conditioner stops working on the RV 

Sinead: well first yeah yeah 

Mirthell: no half an hour after leaving California to come back 

Sinead: no no not in California.

Rita: no not even that on the way there

Sinead: on the way remember?

Mirthell: Oh you’re right 

Sinead: on the way to California it’s 30 minutes later 

Mirthell: it’s true 

Sinead: air conditioning doesn’t work and keep in mind it’s the middle of summer

Mirthell: right and this is new this is a new RV so it’s like whoo and I’m just like I think I’m gonna stop and then I stop and all of a sudden bang!

Rita: Welcome to the onyx family podcast and today we are talking about the Onyx family dinner guys this summer we went to um LA and we were out there for about a couple of months

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: and we filmed our first talk show uh season of onyx family dinner 

Sinead: yeah

Rita: it premieres November 4th, 2021 on the onyx family channel 

Sinead: when this comes out it would have premiered yesterday

Rita: right right yeah that’s right

Mirthell: and it’s a youtube original youtube originals

Rita: It’s a youtube originals produced by Pocketwatch youtube and shine global 

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: in partnership with our company we are just ecstatic to finally have it just so for everyone to see we worked so hard on it but I want to kind of go back and talk about the experience 

Sinead: oh yeah like how it all began 

Shasha: well it was about to be filmed at our house 

Mirthell: well that was because of

the whole video and everything like this

was in 2020 or 2020 

Rita: right so we actually pushed back the filming because of the pandemic we’re like well we don’t feel comfortable going in the studio neither did they feel comfortable with us coming in some studio

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: we all had to be very cautious so there was a lot of pushing back and finally summer of 2021 we were able to do it in a very safe environment that controls everything from the testing everything went beautifully um we had no positive cases on the set everything just was great 

Sinead: that’s so blessing

Rita: that was a huge blessing but you know the road there so we like to take road trips, okay maybe I shouldn’t use the word like now it’s just a necessity for us at this point in time 

Mirthell: right

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: so we take road trips so we took a road trip over there so we were tired but we thought in our idealistic you know manner hey why don’t we take the RV and we’ll take the RV with our dog, yeah and yeah we’re gonna be like all those other people you see on the road you know like when you’re traveling and you seem like a whole bunch of RVs and their cars yeah I don’t know why but it’s just I don’t know what experience they’re having but I’m not having that experience 

Sinead: no none of us are having that

Rita: okay

Mirthell: I mean we just always have drama every single time every single first time the first time for those that don’t know we found that the car that we were towing behind us was traveling now alongside us

Sinead: it was supposed to be towed it was supposed to be connected to the back of the RV right?

Mirthell: but somehow it disconnected the metal ripped

Sinead:  yeah the metal fully

ripped 

Mirthell: the car detached and now we see our car traveling down on the side of the road I’m looking like hey there’s somebody that looks just like our car the one like we’re towing

Sinead: I don’t see anybody in this nobody’s driving driver’s seat

Rita: oh my goodness

Sinead: luckily it was an empty road so it was like like deserted you know when you’re traveling 

Mirthell: this is a very fine piece of metal that was still attached

Rita: very fine 

Mirthell: and so when we pulled off it dragged the car over slightly back behind our vehicle and then it went like this way and then it went that way and then we stopped on the overpass like we stopped at the side and then we were able to rectify the situation

Rita: and then what did we do we unhooked it and then we ended up driving

Mirthell: we ended up driving it all the way back home 

Rita: Yeah it was crazy the second time now I had this big bright idea I said okay I said hun this is why that happened because the hitch maybe was too low to the ground and so I thought maybe blowing all these bumps on you know the interstate roads maybe jerked it a lot so I said let’s flip the hitch upside down so that it’s high and let’s do that so I was like we’ve got this okay problem solved

Mirthell: so we’re traveling

Rita: On the next trip

Mirthell: this is the second trip that we did with it and I would say probably maybe about five hours or six hours in 

Rita: yep yep 

Mirthell: maybe seven 

Sinead: no no no it wasn’t even that long because we did not trust me it was not five or six hours it was like three 

Mirthell: well it was true it was two states over 

Sinead: yeah It wasn’t that far

Mirthell: that state that we came oh and it wasn’t the next state was the following statement

Sinead: yeah yeah

Mirthell: maybe three maybe four hours 

Rita: yeah maybe four hours yeah

Mirthell: but anyhow we stopped and um oh no we’re driving and I see a red light ahead but it’s one of those highways that you can drive a little bit faster yeah so I’m driving it into red light and I try to stop as fast as I can to not hit the red light because I know I’m not going to be able to go through it I’m like whoo and I’m just like I think I’m going to stop and then I stop and all of a sudden bang 

Rita: no let’s see this is what happened we were at the red light and I’m looking on the monitor because we have a camera for the back, yeah and I see that the car that we’re towing did not stop it just kept on going and the thing is because we have such a large RV we didn’t even feel it no we didn’t look at the monitor I would have not known so then we go I said hun uh that the thing just crashed our car just crashed into behind us so we come out of the RV and we see sure enough there’s hood damage bumper damage everything so now we try to unhook the RV from the car we can’t do it so I go

Mirthell: in literally a hole in the hood because it just went

Rita: right  so I go in the car and my job was to remember to press on the brake or something while you drove the RV a bit forward right so I get in there like I’m a bad woman yeah look at me I’m gonna do this or 

Mirthell: How were you supposed to reverse

Rita: well I don’t know all I know is that I watched too much fast and furious and or something because I thought I could do something that I could not do when I was in the car and Mirthell like put the RV forward and I’m going backward I don’t know why I panicked because I felt the car was almost being dragged along so what I do is I as well

Mirthell: Open the door while it’s moving.

Sinead: while it’s moving

Rita: I open the door and I’m 

Mirthell: That women Rita rolls out you know Im gonna jump out of the car and do a flip.

Rita: I didn’t do all that but I did jump out and I felt like I hurt my shoulder or something a bit I was just like

Shasha: what you rolled in the ground?

Rita: no I didn’t roll 

Mirthell: no that was my exaggeration

Rita: and I screamed

Sinead: she jumped out of the car while it was moving

Shiloh: like just walkout 

Rita: no because there was I don’t know 

Sinead: no because the car was moving

Rita: it was moving it was a lot of moving pieces

Shiloh: Then just step out

Sinead: no not when it’s moving

Shiloh: no was it going slowly?

Rita: yes it was going slowly but not enough for me 

Mirthell: look at our age let me tell you something at our age

Rita: everything 

Mirthell: what you have in your mind

Rita: yeah yeah

Mirthell: it doesn’t actually play out you think you’re a stunt woman or a stunt man 

Rita: right

Shiloh: At least like hop out like

Rita: I did I hopped out I threw the door open and i 

Mirthell: I think it was more like a hobble out it was more hobble

Rita: all I know is that I screamed and I was scared but it worked you know it did detach and then so then we were like 

Mirthell: oh that was the second time

Rita: so we were like forget it you know we’re not doing the hitch anymore I don’t know how all these other people do it I see them all the time on these streets I don’t know how they do it but for some reason, hitches don’t work for us so now on this trip

Mirthell: this trip now we decide we’re going to drive our Cadillac right behind it

Rita: right behind it 

Mirthell: right behind it so you know or in front like we’re going to drive 

Rita: yeah with it right

Mirthell: we’re not going to hitch it up 

Sinead: yeah 

Mirthell: so the whole trip now

Rita: no before you even go to the first we are half an hour away and our air

conditioner stops working on the RV 

Sinead: well first yeah yeah 

Mirthell: no half an hour after leaving California to come back 

Rita: no no no not even that on the way there 

Sinead: on the way there remember?

Mirthell: you’re right 

Sinead: on the way to California it’s 30 minutes later

Mirthell: it’s true 

Sinead: air conditioning doesn’t work and keep in mind it’s the middle of summer 

Mirthell: right and this is new this is a new RV so it’s like what’s going on here so we bring it back we bring it to uh RV place and they, we really gotta go because we’re in a time crunch because now we have to start filming everything is set up gotta get out there 

Sinead: and it takes four days to get to California

Mirthell: right so we’re just like okay so what we’re gonna do we’re gonna bring it back to an RV place have them fix it and then we’ll get back on the road the very next morning so we drive back they start working and they’re just like oh man we need this part and we need that part we need this and that so what they’re going to do is they’re going to macgyver it and they’re going to like

Rita: because they don’t have time to order them 

Mirthell: and all the parts are not even available because of it yeah so it’s just like they’re going to guide for it and they’re going to like connect this wire to that and

Sinead: they’re going to do this generator or something like that 

Mirthell: yeah and then disconnect this I don’t even know okay because I don’t know 

Rita: yeah anyway it worked 

Mirthell: it worked  so we took off 

Rita: but we have to have the generator on

Mirthell: right 

Rita: So that’s kind of loud at night you know 

Sinead: so that is going to tie into more later in the story 

Rita: right 

Mirthell: so we actually, everything was going fine pretty much on our way there

Rita: right

Mirthell: I don’t think we had any problems on our way there good once we start to get there

Rita: Shalom and Sinead drove a lot 

Sinead: did we well I can’t remember if we didn’t figure out did we figure out how to plug in we didn’t we couldn’t figure out how to plugin 

Rita: oh the plugs 

Mirthell: no what happened is one of the places that we went it was full and the place that we went to actually had a burnt-out plug

Rita: oh yeah yeah the unit

Mirthell: so we couldn’t plug it on that one but 

Rita: that’s we that was our we didn’t know

Mirthell: yeah we just didn’t know but anyhow so everything pretty much was pretty good yeah oh no no no the stairs

Rita: Oh my goodness the stairs

Mirthell: so once we get there everything is fine until we have to go into our Airbnb because we stayed at a really beautiful spot off in malibu 

Rita: no but the stairs started coming out 

Mirthell: no it didn’t come out we were fine going in malibu going uh whatever

Rita: no we were not because oh after we left Malibu

Mirthell: after we left malibu 

Rita: oh yeah

Mirthell: now we went to and we went to our Airbnb right something happened with our stairs where whatever they did whatever they macgyvered or whatever happened it started to like

Rita: I don’t think it was them though

Mirthell: it might not be 

Rita: but before we get to that though we stayed for a while in malibu we were at a beautiful RV park

Sinead: yes 

Rita: and so we thought like I said kind of how I started this thing with our idealistic selves guys look at this we could stay in this RV for a while we’re right here by the ocean, it’s beautiful I think within what a few days we were like we need it we need an Airbnb 

Sinead: yeah this six people in that small of a space 

Shasha: oh my goodness and a dog 

Rita: with a dog

Sinead: and a dog is actually a key part to that because it just takes up even more space 

Rita: Yeah it was nice though it was beautiful it’s nice 

Mirthell: it’s a nice RV it’s spacious but it’s just not spacious for six people 

Rita: we go from malibu now from the RV park now to our Airbnb for where we’re gonna be for like you know several weeks while we’re filming and that’s when we discover as we’re driving the stairs that you know to come out that extend when you open the door to the RV keep on going in and out in and out as you’re driving as you’re driving 

Mirthell: so we’re like this is not safe like the stairs are coming out it could hit a car beside us so we’re just like okay we gotta get this thing was fixed but we decided that we were just gonna park it on the street 

Rita: by our Airbnb, this is in West Hollywood now

Sinead: yeah this RV in the middle of the West Hollywood

Mirthell: right

Rita: to be fair there’s a lot of RVs in l.a I mean a lot.

Sinead: this is a giant RV 

Mirthell: right so we call uh you know a mechanic to come and fix our stairs mechanics don’t want to come nobody wants to come up

Rita: no what happened is there are so many RVs in LA that the people who fix RVs are on backorder or on the waitlist for months for people for us to sign up and actually, have them come to fix our RVs

Mirthell: so the company that we that has us out there they get us a spot they get us um a place where we can bring the RV where we can store it and where they can fix it so, me and Rita 

Rita: no-no not to fix it it was just a place where we can store it we can store it 

Mirthell: that’s true so, me and Rita head out there and stairs are coming out [Music] yeah every second people are honking me, yeah honking me and then we have to wind down the window or not wind down the window but open the window and they’re like 

Rita: yeah yeah and then we’re always like we know we know

Mirthell: we know so it’s just like over and over you know what the irony of it is is is that someone from the set was on the highway a random highway like California is like a big place by millions and millions of people and there is some guy that was worked on the side that had worked on the set was driving down the highway and just like 

Rita: saw us in the RV and then it was like you’re stairs are out.

Mirthell: your stairs and he realizes it’s the Onyx Family he’s like hey hey that’s the Onyx family see you in the morning!

Shalom: I don’t remember that 

Sinead: yeah yeah that happened

Mirthell: so we get there okay so we get to the place where we’re gonna store the RV and it’s just like ah the headache of the RV is gonna be off we’re gonna go back in our Airbnb we’re gonna enjoy the rest of our time and guess what I forgot our insurance card and our registration and the people will not give us and it was Friday so

Rita: it was Friday 

Mirthell: we couldn’t get it forwarded over from where we lived

Rita: what was stunning though was how did we go across a country without this insurance, III no I mean honestly it’s on our phone so that’s one thing 

Sinead: yeah

Rita: but it was something else that we needed was the registration

Mirthell: was the registration or the title one of them 

Rita: registration it was the title or one of them it was one of those and so we had to wait to go and get it um faxed back to us so we had to drive that though all the way back to the West Hollywood 

Sinead: yeah I drove there then get drive back 

Rita: and this is the thing this RV park was all the way in the valley and we were staying in West Hollywood and it was just like Nah this was no good fam 

Mirthell: okay so there’s a mystery I don’t know maybe you guys can help us solve this mystery

Okay so we drive our RV back and when we drive our RV back we park it back on the street now we had gotten a note for some reason 

Sinead: Can I just say for some reason, the door also started malfunctioning when we went to the Airbnb 

Shiloh: it would unlock it

Mirthell: which door?

Sinead: the door just started for no reason

Mirthell: the front door?

Sinead: yeah this door no-no the door of the RV just started malfunctioning because as soon as I opened it start blaring alarm

Mirthell: oh right right

Rita: It has never done that before

Shiloh: Oh yeah, I remember

Mirthell: right so we ended up parking on the street okay it’s a neighborhood really nice neighborhood okay I got a note on the RV that week saying I would like to buy your RV would you like to sell the RV we love you know I really like your RV whatever okay 

Rita: oh I didn’t know we got someone who wants to buy our RV 

Mirthell: yeah somebody wanted to buy our RV

Shasha: remembered I showed you guys the note 

Rita: oh

Mirthell: yeah so someone wanted to buy the RV I didn’t call them back and basically, I’m just like I’m not going to sell our RV, okay that is we’ll call that subject number one okay 

Sinead: okay 

Rita: okay suspect number one

Mirthell: suspect number two was we got into a little spat not a big one but a little spat with the

owners of the actual Airbnb right because they were like something like they wanted to overcharge for cleaning and we’re just like no we clean our own stuff so 

Rita: we wanted to clean like twice a week or something and we’re like

Mirthell: and we’re just like no we will we’ll clean our own whatever thing I think they want to make some money so that’s suspect number two suspect number three there is a Karen that was on the street

Rita: oh yeah 

Mirthell: that lived across and I was parking on that side I didn’t know it was care in there I just parked where there was an opening but I later found out that like one day when I came back to park there she was like no you can’t park here because my serviceman is gonna be here and so you can’t park here so I was just like oh okay fine thank you and I moved on over there and I parked over by a construction worker 

Rita: worksite, like a house being renovated

Mirthell: suspect number four the owner of that worksite or yeah whatever yeah anyhow that day we got a ticket on our vehicle saying that they are going to tow our vehicle if we don’t move it right away 

Rita: right 

Mirthell: we, they are towing our vehicle and we got like a ticket from the city now granted

the whole time we were there we had gotten no ticket until one of these suspects was engaged and it happened around the same time right right where it was the owner of our Airbnb the Karen across the street you know the person that wanted to buy our RV and that other person so we’re wondering like who wants us off the street

Shasha: I think it was a Karen I feel like the person with the RV won by the RV wouldn’t report it 

Mirthell: yeah maybe

Shiloh: I think the moral of the story is to book plane tickets wear some masks and just go on a plane

Mirthell: yeah 

Shiloh: because that’s less time get over your fears just do it

Sinead: what are you trying to say, Shiloh?

Mirthell: Well I don’t know what but somebody wanted us off that street anyhow we kept the RV there over the weekend and then on Monday we were able to bring it in we had all our paperwork but oh what a headache so

Shalom: let me tell you there are more RV stories than it is film production stories 

Mirthell: I know but that was the first part 

Rita: that’s a huge part

Sinead: it was such a huge part 

Shiloh: I remember you said you know RV owners always have these amazing stories and everything and that was when we first got the RV and now I see what they mean

Mirthell: I think the last so we managed to survive for the rest of the time because our view was away and then afterward on our way back home after filming that’s when that the final 

Sinead: the final clincher oh my goodness

Mirthell: it was my it was the worst 

Sinead: it was again guys it’s the middle of summer okay 

Shiloh: oh

Sinead: finally for some reason the air conditioner now decides to give out

Mirthell: we’re driving through the desert 

Sinead: we’re driving through the dessert 

Rita: we’re in Arizona 

Sinead: we’re in Arizona 

Rita: in New Mexico, texas

Sinead: where it gets to 100 degrees guys 

Mirthell: yes 

Shiloh: we were thinking of going to a hotel we stuck it out and slept in that RV

Sinead: no barely slept we were having fever dreams guys

Shiloh: sweat was pouring

Rita: there was one night I don’t think any of us slept because we were just too hot

Sinead: It was just one night because we were trying to get through those states as fast as possible we did not stay long at all 

Shiloh: wait did we mention the earthquake or the earthquake in Cali?

Mirthell: there was an Earthquake?

Sinead: there was a

Rita: I didn’t know if there was an Earthquake.

Sinead: there wasn’t there was a slight one but you guys didn’t feel I felt it it was in malibu and we were In Malibu 

Mirthell: oh okay 

Rita: oh but all I know guys are that I put my face by a window trying to get cool air but there was no breeze nothing

Sinead: yeah that’s the thing

Rita: it was the hottest I think I’ve ever been 

Mirthell: and this is when I discovered I would rather freeze didn’t have that

kind of heat

Rita: it was horrible 

Mirthell: I would rather bundle up in a blanket and just super cold and cuddle and whatever

Sinead: yeah

Mirthell: but heat 

Sinead: you feel like you can do nothing 

Mirthell: you can’t escape you 

Sinead: you can’t escape the heat 

Rita: you can’t well I mean honestly I don’t know when we’ll take another RV

trip 

Mirthell: no you know what the problem was that I couldn’t breathe the air was so thick I could breathe no RV RV is just not the thing

Rita: it’s not for us maybe it’s for others maybe other families but not for us

Shiloh: always in planes even boats

Rita: I don’t mind boats if 

Sinead: you want to take a boat to LA?

Shiloh: why not like 

Mirthell: we would have to we should have to find from where we are we would have to find a port

Rita: to go through the Panama canal 

Mirthell: right

Rita: all right but you know back to but when we were in la now we’re filming and I tell you guys this is probably our first time well we’ve actually been on sets as guest stars for things like Ryan’s mystery player playdate um and then you guys had done actually a nickelodeon commercial so 

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: but this was the first set that we’ve been in where we were actually the talent and it was like oh my goodness this is so cool you know we’re there we got a dressing room and you just see the whole thing like this really showed us like you know 

Sinead: definitely

Rita: you know you see like I always hear about craft tables, Is it craft paper 

Sinead: yeah crafts crafting

Rita: craft services I always hear about that now I’m like oh this is what it is and it was fun okay so guys I really only drink like Fiji water you know maybe some avion I mostly drink Fiji water so I happen to mention it because I don’t know something was weird one year when I drink some other waters I won’t get into it but I’ll say is that I just don’t drink other I don’t do well-bottled water and he doesn’t do well with avian water right I didn’t have an upset stomach with the other water but it was just a weird thing so basically I only drink Fiji but I only drink fiji water so anyway I happen to mention it to the people at craft services and next thing I know all over said it’s like don’t drink the Fiji water it’s only for Rita and I felt like such a diva that’s not like what I meant to happen but it was like because they had the regular I don’t know arrowhead or whatever it was and then he was like oh you want fiji water let me bring it for you and I was like oh 

Mirthell: They’d be chilling Fiji water just for Rita like Diva Rita

Rita: I feel like Im a diva I know but it was really good

Sinead: yeah and one thing that we did not expect to have I didn’t really think about it when we got up like our own pa our personal assistant I was like oh wow just someone that would be able to get away from

Mirthell: that would do everything for us literally

Rita: right right it was he was just like Dang anything you needed he was always like you guys need anything, you guys need anything yeah I was like

Sinead: it was really nice it was 

Mirthell: it was fun we had a wardrobe would go and buy us outfits if we needed it

Shalom: Did you say wardrobe?

Mirthell: a wardrobe that’s what they call them

Shiloh: I’m literally wearing the clothes he bought me like right now 

Rita: oh Wow

Mirthell: that’s true he did he bought that the top for him

Shasha: yeah I’m wearing a blue dress and I think I wore this too I’m not sure but it was like it was very cool working with the designer

Shalom: I’m wearing the rings that he gave me 

Sinead: oh for real

Rita: well see I guess his impact is still on us, you know 

Mirthell: was it aj?

Rita: AJ

Mirthell: AJ yeah AJ was cool I really like AJ 

Rita: right shout out to Bradley

Mirthell: yeah yeah our first PA

Rita: yeah so there’s AJ, Bradley and oh well we had our own you know makeup and hair, Jordana?

Sinead: Yes! Jordana was great

Rita: yeah she was so so good she made our face look so good like guys I don’t usually wear makeup I have no clue what I’m doing when I do the 

Shalom: same

Rita: um but just to go on there and just roll up and not have to even think about it

Sinead: yeah that just felt nice

Rita: it was nice yeah and then oh man Shy she was the like production coordinator

Mirthell: Oh yeah, she was very cool though

Rita: oh she was so cool she was just like 

Shalom: every day I would see her purple jeep and I’ll be like she’s here yeah 

Rita: yeah she’s lots of energy but it was so good and that’s the point you, I mean there are so many other people on set 

Sinead: yeah we appreciate it, everybody

Rita: like our director Sandy

Mirthell: um I was close with Elion 

Rita: Elion the assistant director like see there’s a lot of terms that I’ve always heard about or read about and all of a sudden now you see it like all in front of you 

Sinead: um you see how it all works together 

Rita: right the grip best boy like there are so many people

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: so many names but I could tell you guys like right off the bat and I’m not exaggerating this like I was saying 99.9 of everyone was so nice 

Sinead: yeah definitely

Rita: was so friendly was so professional

Mirthell: Definitely

Sinead: it was like it was a great set 

Shalom: a great experience 

Mirthell: and they were just like I mean if anything even happened they were hiding all the drama from us, that’s like they literally protect the stars like it’s always just like you know we’d probably never hear anything that is you know happening around us 

Sinead: yeah even if there was we wouldn’t know 

Shasha: and I love the food too I think that I like the vegan food 

Sinead: yeah because every one of the dishes on the set was vegan so that was really nice yeah 

Rita: Yeah it was really it took us out of our comfort zone because these were foods that maybe we wouldn’t normally

Sinead: Yeah

Mirthell: right so that’s true so what about like our first guest like let’s talk about the guests

Shasha: Our first guest emmanuel acho?

Mirthell: Emmanuel Acho that was amazing like yeah this guy he has he’s so intelligent 

Shasha: first of all he came in the room with so much energy

Rita: yeah 

Sinead: definitely

Rita: Confident

Mirthell: I felt like I knew this guy for like the longest time 

Shalom: well you didn’t you? because you’ve been watching him online 

Mirthell: well I’ve been watching him But

Rita: yeah but not personal

Mirthell: he didn’t know me as it wasn’t personal 

Rita: One thing I recognized while I was like sitting there and listening to him talk I’m like I whispered to him like you sound like a preacher and he started laughing like preaching is in my blood wasn’t his like I think his father’s

Mirthell: His father, his father was a preacher

Rita: yeah that was a preacher and I mean like you could totally tell he just had that minister swag

Mirthell: yeah

Sinead: yeah 

Rita: you know 

Shalom: oh yeah

Mirthell: right he’s like a light like drawing people to what he has to say what he has to do and probably drawing a few girls too I mean he has that swag that’s like you know

Shalom: yeah he’s a really great guy I saw he won like an Emmy the other day I just love the like ministry that he has about you know having uncomfortable conversations with you know a black man like I don’t know because it’s something like when people have conversations with us like a black man like imagine the uncomfortable conversation with onyx family

Mirthell: well I guess that’s kind of what we are doing in the show is kind of like

Sinead: having conversations 

Mirthell: some conversations that are uncomfortable some of them 

Sinead: some of them yeah yeah but what I really appreciate about like talking with him is that he really brought a light to what how we can talk with people with uncomfortable conversations like how we should talk be talking to them and how it’s an important thing to do because a lot of people will avoid uncomfortable situations 

Shalom: right 

Sinead: or uncomfortable conversations and it’s not something that you really should avoid but just learn how to deal with it.

Mirthell: that’s interesting because a lot of people think that if they avoid conversations or avoid an argument that somehow it’s just gonna magically go away the problem whatever the dissonance is whatever the challenge is but how can you work on a problem unless you come to understand it and how can you come to understand it the differences that we have unless we’re talking

Sinead: exactly

Rita: yeah so when he first came in he was like wow look at this vegan spread how did you guys know I was vegan and we were like you’re vegan and he was like yeah we’re like well how long he goes like a day and we’re like no that’s you’re no you’re just eating a more plant-based, yeah you know for the day

Shalom: Do you remember what we ate?

Sinead: what did we eat on that day?

Mirthell: that was pizza I believe 

Rita: we had so much food during that whole process we can’t even remember what meals we had on what day 

Shasha: yeah it was so hard to um chew and also speak 

Mirthell: but with Emmanuel, we had pasta I think 

Rita: I think it was pasta, yeah and so I mean a lot of pasta can be very plant-based you know but it was really good food and I just want to shout out you know the chef that was on the show although Mirthell is our cook he’s like our chef you know if you guys watch the feed the soul you guys know yes he is our in fact even after this podcast we have some soup waiting for us 

Mirthell: so the month of November I’m going to be fixing a soup every day just comfort soup 

Rita: yeah

Shalom: I love that!

Mirthell: but it’s all good everything is vegan

Shasha: can you please write down the recipe so I can make it like I’m afraid that one day like you won’t tell me anytime like just tell me

Mirthell: Nah cookbook coming soon and everybody will

be able to get it

Rita: but interesting is a lot of people would think well why didn’t you guys cook it it’s onyx family dinner you know one of the reasons why and at first, we wanted to they actually gave us the option but we said you know what we can’t be all things to all people as much as we would want and it’s not like a cooking show where you know you’re gonna see the food cooked but at the end of the day it is a family dinner and that’s the portion we needed to focus on because cooking for production in fact

Mirthell: everything is perfect

Rita: I forgot what the term is but they basically like um they decorate the food they set it’s it’s I can’t remember the department but it’s the whole department that takes care of it

Mirthell: that person was on set I think longer than anybody else, they would break down the cameras they would break down the sound the computers right and the person that is doing the cooking would have to come there the earliest and end up leaving the latest

Shasha: right yeah coz they have to clean up after 

Shalom: oh yeah 

Mirthell: i couldn’t do that and film and be this one of the stars exactly no I couldn’t do it 

Rita: Exactly, because there’s a food prep scene where we’re prepping the food so in essence, we are helping to prepare the food but we’re not right we’re not the

Mirthell: we’re not in charge.

Rita: yeah exactly so that was really important but I mean it was really really tasty meals  the meals I think even were new to us and I think you know we actually now feel like oh we can probably 

Shasha: like strawberries and pasta

Rita: Yeah, I don’t know about that one

Shasha: it was interesting, I like it

Shalom: I love that I like it

Shasha: I liked it too! Because I love strawberries

Shalom: It was interesting I like the strawberries like the cream cheese it was like an interesting combination

Shasha: I know they didn’t like it I liked it 

Rita: I have to try that 

Shasha: no you didn’t like it even if you did try it again

Shiloh: Did I like it?

Rita: I don’t really

Shasha: do you like it? I liked it it was good 

Sinead: I think it was good it was different

Mirthell: I think I’m glad that we led off with Emmanuel being the first show because I think that it will prepare the audience I think I’m glad that we let off with that because the reason why I really like it is that he models very well how to have conversations that are uncomfortable 

Rita: well he just puts you at ease you know when you start talking to him he has a real way about him and the stories he tells about some of his first incidents where he felt like this pull like were to like when he was at the lunchroom in the NFL like where do I sit who do I relate more to just people who are black or people who are you know maybe they grew up like me like there’s just a lot of different things 

Sinead: and he was talking about how there was a division there sometimes too 

Rita: yeah 

Mirthell: you know what’s interesting uh you know his uncomfortable conversation with a black man focuses on the relations the racial relations and tensions in America and encourages us to sit down with one another especially black and white and others to be able to understand each other more but what’s interesting is that when I see him on other programs that he has because he has like sports programs and other things he has uncomfortable conversations about a lot of things even including in the world of sports because he was an ex-NFL and I remember one of the conversations that he had that was kind of like uncomfortable was about that runner that

Sinead: um um Sha’carri?

Mirthell: Sha’carri right and there were some challenges you know just some people felt really challenged about what he was saying about her attitude and how she’s coming to the sport and he’s taking a pretty strong stance on that particular situation and he’s gotten a lot of people coming back and kind of like 

Shasha: what sense does he have I don’t understand

Mirthell: well I think I think what he’s trying to say is that he doesn’t get why a lot of people are on there saying that you know to fight and saying that like you know this is a woman why are we putting down a woman when really these were everybody that was running were black women so we gotta respect black women but he’s saying basically that everybody that was running was black women and so

Sinead: You need to respect all of them

Mirthell: you know respect all of them everybody needs to be respected including Sha’carri needs to respect the woman that she’s racing with

Rita: here we go again

with the way you butcher her name, “Shakairi” It’s Sha’carri

Mirthell: Sha’carri my apologies to Sha’carri um but um so he is comfortable with having uncomfortable conversations no matter what the topic is

Sinead: and he’s comfortable having a difference of opinion or not necessarily following along with what everybody else is saying

Shalom: see it’s all about respect or like you

know just listening and respect right i

feel like you’re going to see a lot of

this on the dinner table you know 

Sinead: yeah

listening and respect that’s that you’re

Right

Rita: I think that one of the things that we had to actually confront for ourselves was how comfortable were we having conversations with other people see when we do our show like on our on our youtube channel or you know any platform that we have our app or whatever it’s really mostly our family

Sinead: right 

Shalom: It’s true

Sinead: and we’re extremely comfortable with each other 

Rita: Right and we don’t really we have never really tackled these topics before the topics that you’re going to see on onyx family dinner though they are I think topics that everyone is talking about and we are no exception it’s just that we had never talked about it or done anything

Mirthell: with the camera in front of us 

Rita: exactly but we are just like every other family out there we have these discussions too we have our opinions and we have our thoughts and all these things affect us as well there are some topics that we’re going to be getting into that affect us very deeply you know

Sinead: right

Rita: and you know if they ever did like a director’s cut and this and you were able to see the full conversation you’d probably see more but you know we have to fit it in between a certain time 

Shasha: did you say you’re about to cry one of them?

Rita: Yeah there was um there was one where we

were talking about body positivity and

there were ones where we talked about my

grandfather who just passed away and

raced the racial injustice that he often

faced as a black baseball player in the

60s and 50s so there’s a lot of things

that hit very close to home 

Sinead: definitely

Mirthell: well i mean guys

how real do you think we were on when as

we were talking?

Rita: I think we were real you Know

Mirthell: I think for the most part we were

Shasha: yeah 

Rita: well where were we not?

Mirthell: well I just think that we interrupt each other a little bit more 

Rita: oh yeah 

Sinead: oh yeah yeah yeah

Mirthell: like around the table like 

Sinead: we’re a little more polite on camera 

Mirthell: right right 

Rita: Yeah that’s true that’s true

Mirthell: I just want to keep it real 

Sinead: yeah I don’t think we said anything that was not us it’s more like the way we interact with each other

Rita: okay

Sinead: you know a little just a little bit oh that’s right we had to give a good show 

Shasha: like what like what?

Rita: well I was gonna say like Shalom is you know she’s talked so softly here and you guys don’t see her when the camera is off yeah

Shalom: I’m loud

Mirthell: yeah shalom can get it in 

Rita: she can get in there so

Shiloh: that is a cap on most cases 

Shasha: Why

Shiloh: in my honest opinion like Shalom can get mad on the inside but not on the outside

Rita: not mad we’re talking about animated 

Mirthell: animated

Sinead: like she talks like loud sometimes what she wants

Shiloh: oh yeah

Shasha: do you think you were real on your talk show 

Shiloh: yes I think so

Sinead: I think you were too honestly 

Shalom: yeah 

Mirthell: yeah we shared our opinions and everything that we shared was true to life i think that we were just a little bit more polished in a sense that we weren’t really interrupting each other or if we had a difference of opinion we were a little less animated than we could get but for overall i think that we were very true to who we are

Rita: I think we focused on listening, listening to our guests especially and learning and I think that that’s what we hope that you all do as well that you as you listen you learn a lot about what these guests have to say and actually learn more about us too 

Sinead: that’s true that’s i feel like that this is a setting that the show is a setting where people can learn more about background of our lives and how we came to who we are and who we are as a family more than what we’ve kind of shown on our channel sometimes you know

Rita: right right 

Mirthell: yeah and that you’ve been to such a good point about the listening part because you know if we are really going to truly understand each other it’s not so much about telling others what we feel but taking the opportunity to listen and i think that’s why we modeled listening we were very intentional in modeling listening because that was an opportunity for our audience to be able to hear what their story truly is 

Shalom: right 

Rita: right yeah so overall guys it was a great experience we are really excited to share it with you you know like like um sinead said by the time you see this episode of this podcast, it would have aired yesterday 

Sinead: yesterday yes 

Rita: so let us know what you all think let us know like what you guys think of the topics and just the whole vibe so beautiful beautiful set 

Sinead: yes go watch episode one right now it’s um the one with Emmanuel Ocho on our channel on Onyx family on youtube so those who are listening it’s on onyx family on youtube 

Shalom: until next

time when we expose even more behind the

scenes

Sinead: oh yeah we’re going to be doing every after every episode of onyx family dinner we are going to be doing a behind-the-scenes podcast episode to talk more about the topic talk more about the guests and more about the experience 

Shalom: and our experience in California guys yeah so you still have so much to share

Sinead: there’s still so much to share about the whole trip 

Rita: oh i know so much more 

Sinead: so yeah there’s so much more to share guys in these scenes at podcast episodes for Onyx dinner so we hope you guys stay tuned don’t forget to go and watch episode one and we will see you in the next podcast episode 

Everyone: bye